[Softbaitmaker]

I just asked this question on the old site and all of a sudden I'm here Sooooo!!! I will just ask it here. Most all soft bait companies make claims that their baits float very well. With the amount of fishing pressure that every lake in the country recieves if every soft bait companies baits floated that well why does the surface of every lake not look like big rainbows from all of the soft plastic baits that should be floating around on them? I honestly seldom actually see another companies soft bait floating around on the lake while I am trolling around and fishing.



my question is: Do you think there are that many bait companies that actually make baits that float all that well?

 

[Countryboy]

I have saw very few soft baits that float mmost sink slowly..

 

[G3_Guy]

I dont think so... I've obviously never poured any plastics but I'm guessing to get them to float, there are two things that matter.

1. Type of Material
   
2. How the material is injected into the mold
   

Those lures may suspend but not truly float.

 

[snoot]

I would say no. Too much salt packed in alot of the soft plastics. They also seem alot more dense.

But what do I know.

 

[Countryboy]

alright let us have it Softie tell us why!

 

[Softbaitmaker]

alright let us have it Softie tell us why!

Well I was kinda waiting on more people to post first CB but you can bet I do plan on telling ya'll my opinions...........

 

[snoot]

Well I was kinda waiting on more people to post first CB but you can bet I do plan on telling ya'll my opinions...........

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[Countryboy]

 

[Softbaitmaker]

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, OK! Ready!

Jon do you have your pad and pencil or did you finally break down and buy an ink cartridge for your printer?????

 

[snoot]

Jon do you have your pad and pencil or did you finally break down and buy an ink cartridge for your printer?????

I did better than that! You know those people that sit around during court typing all the words that are said?!?! well...........

Got One! LMBO!!!

 

[Softbaitmaker]

I did better than that! You know those people that sit around during court typing all the words that are said?!?! well...........

Got One! LMBO!!!

Gosh, didn't know you could read shorthand writing, Jon , you never cease to amaze me.......

 

[Softbaitmaker]

Ok Jon, turn your machine on.....

Because people wanted soft baits that would float off the bottom and hand poured baits will in many cases float the injected bait makers decided to begin advertising that their baits now floated also. It was for the most part a lie but they were having a problem competing with the Hand pour bait companies out west like Don Ivinoe's Hand Pours and Cremes Hand Poured Baits. Injected bait companies for the most part either use the cheapest plastisol available and then by the time they get done sticking the additives and scents and salt in it chances of it floating are slim to none but they say they will float. There are some Hand Pour Companies that have also laid claims that their baits will also float that are also lying. They have figured out what the injected companies did. That is that anglers will buy them anyway believing that they float because it says they do on the bags so many hand pour companies have also converted over to using the cheapest plastisol rather than the high quality plastisol they built their reputations on. All to make the big bucks!!! I have purchased plastisol from every company in this country that produces it searching to find the best possible product made and I have been using the same highest quality plastisol offer for the last 8 years. It is also one of the most expensive. I promise you anyone that has any of my baits will tell you that my baits without a doubt do FLOAT. If you don't add weight of some type to my baits they will not sink. My Flukes have been know to float on the surface with a 3/0 hook in them. Now I know that most people catch fish on every companies baits. I don't normally mention very many other companies baits but I do mention Gary Yamamotos because Gary is one of the companies that does not tell you his baits float so I use his name plus Gary and I are friends. Not close friends but friends and yea he has used my baits and I have a few he likes. But if you purchase Garys Senko's your gonna pay top dollar for them. His baits will cost about .70 cents each and he uses the cheapest plastisol on the market. I know because I did ask him who he got his base product from and he told me. You can also believe that the Senko's you see Gary fishing with are not the Senko's your buying either. He has his all custom injected. But we all know that is what most of the Pros do. Not just with soft baits either but thats another topic. Now I am not going to tell anyone to stop using anyones baits because alot of bass fishing is confidence and if you have confidence in a bait by all means you keep using it. I just wanted to more or less clear the air on this issue of soft baits that float or say they do and really don't.

A prime example was the Riverside Bait Company which is almost no longer in business did make a serious attempt to make a floating soft bait by making baits with small air bubble bodied baits and called them Air Lizards, Air Fry's, Air Worms etc etc but the baits were to hard and also were not as effective as they hope they would be and the baits were also big and bulky. They knew that eventually anglers were going to realize that most injected baits did not float and they made an honest attempt to make theirs float and failed. I hope I have at least allowed some folks to learn a little more about soft baits facts and myths.

 

[softworm]

I would say no. Too much salt packed in alot of the soft plastics. They also seem alot more dense.

But what do I know.

You're exactly right. Thats one reason. I don't know what kind of plastic the "big boys" use for pouring their lures, but I've melted some of it back down to repour. This is the thickest, and awfull smelling stuff you can imagine. Sometimes I wonder how you can catch fish with them.

 

[Softbaitmaker]

You're exactly right. Thats one reason. I don't know what kind of plastic the "big boys" use for pouring their lures, but I've melted some of it back down to repour. This is the thickest, and awfull smelling stuff you can imagine. Sometimes I wonder how you can catch fish with them.

softworm, let me save you alot of aches and pains by telling you that many of the injector bait companies don't use hot plastics and they will not melt down with heat because they are a chemically induced form of hardening very similar to the same effect you get when you mix epoxy together. It is never heated. But I guess you already figured the no heating part out by your post..........

 

[TFO]

thanks softy (now I have to go to the eye doc)

 

[Softbaitmaker]

thanks softy (now I have to go to the eye doc)

Would it be easier on you if I enlarge the print Jason.......

 

[Brownfish03]

Yet again, another fine read from Mr. Softy

 

[Countryboy]

good stuff Softy!!!

 

[snoot]

Thanks Doug!

 

[Holeshot]

OK, I use a soft bait that does float, it is a soft bait made by StrikeKing, it is call a 3X soft bait, 7" trick floating worm, and they do float, I bought about 4 packs, from wally world on clearance for 1$ a piece, about a year ago. after reading this, I took one out of the pack and up in a pot of water and it has been floatong for about an hour now, but the one thing i don't like about these is they are almost to soft, they are almost gummy like, you can T-rig them fine, but if you want to put them on a jig head with a lead barb, you can't get them over the barb as they are to squishy, and a big barb won't penetrate them.