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booger1 10-15-2011 06:57 AM

Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 06:14:49 -0500



Subject: Re: Douglas Lake Fish Stocking



Mr. Sensabaugh,



We have not been stocking crappie in Douglas the last couple of years because, like you are noticing, we have seen the population start to recover. Also, crappie stocking has a bigger impact in smaller reservoirs like Boone and South Holston than it does in larger reservoirs like Douglas. Therefore, we have been trying to concentrate our crappie stocking efforts in those reservoirs, especially since the Douglas crappie population has shown an increase in number and better spawning success. The 6 to 9-inch crappie you are seeing right now, are from the 2010 spawn and should grow into harvestable size fish this coming spring.



The Henderson Island pond was unsuccessful at rearing sauger, and after several attempts, was used to raise smallmouth bass. Also, we've only had marginal success with crappie at Henderson Island. The trend has become to concentrate our efforts and manpower at our hatchery facilities where we know we can have success. We have been able to raise 3 - 4 times as many fish at hatchery ponds when compared to the pond at Henderson Island. In addition, maintaining the water levels Henderson Island pond requires water to be pumped from Douglas reservoir into the pond, and fuel for the generator which runs the pump is expensive. As I'm sure you're aware, budget cuts have limited us on how many "extra" things like the Henderson Island pond we can continue. We are not going to totally abandon the pond, but at this point, it looks like rearing crappie and sauger is much more successful and cost efficient at our hatchery facilities.



If you have any more questions, let us know and I hope you have good luck this fall catching plenty of crappie.



Thanks,



John





___________________________

John Hammonds

TWRA Fisheries Biologist

3030 Wildlife Way

Morristown, TN 37814

Direct: 423-522-2474

Toll Free: 800-332-0900

[email protected]

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>>> FRED SENSABAUGH 10/07/11 3:32 PM >>>

No fish were stocked in Douglas Lake in 2010 according to your web site. What happened to the Henderson Island pond hatchery? I remember one year the water got too hot and you lost your brood fish. Sauger seem to be almost gone from the lake. I thought the pond was also to hatch sauger early and then crappie on up in spring? The next 2 or 3 years should really be good on crappie. I troll most of the time and have been catching a lot of small crappie from 6 to 9 inches. I guess that would be the spawn from 2009-2010? I would think that they had a good spawn this year as the lake stayed about the same level during May and June.



Thank You

Fred Sensabaugh

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dada 10-15-2011 05:59 PM

Since Booger 1 has such good luck ( & knowledge!) about the HENDERSON iSLAND raise pond, maybe he could let us known about the one at Shield's creek on Cherokee that was supposed to put that lake back to earlier days when crappie was king there. Anyone know about what happened? dada 10-15-11 6 PM

booger1 10-15-2011 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dada (Post 198701)
Since Booger 1 has such good luck ( & knowledge!) about the HENDERSON iSLAND raise pond, maybe he could let us known about the one at Shield's creek on Cherokee that was supposed to put that lake back to earlier days when crappie was king there. Anyone know about what happened? dada 10-15-11 6 PM

DaDa I have no knowledge of stocking on douglas or HENDERSON iSLAND, this letter was sent to me in an email, I was just passing it on to the fishermam and about the little crappie in douglas this year. https://www.easttennesseefishing.com/...ault/smile.png

minnerman 11-23-2011 10:51 AM

Sorry but just saw this post today. The Shields Creek project was originally proposd by Dave Bishop (TWRA) many years ago(70's). Dave was a friend of mine and we talked about this several times. The last time it came up a private group (Cherokee Lake Users Group) proposed to do the project. They were going to build the levee and water control structure and turn it over to TWRA to operate. That got around a lot of problems. They started on the water control device, then quit. I know TWRA looked at doing it themselves. A guy who owned a large construction company volunteered to haul the dirt for TWRA for nothing. Grainger County Industrial Park was going to allow TWRA to get the dirt there for nothing.



TDOT required the levee to be built off of their R-O-W and wasn't happy with the idea of Pan Haulers hauling down 2-lane 11-W. A local landowner didn't want the equipment hauling the dirt to cross him, Bean Station Utility wanted their utilities relocated at no cost, TDEC wanted a permit fee for TWRA to build the levee, TVA wanted $'s for lost power production and flood storage, so TWRA had to drop the project. Basically the same thing happened when TWRA looked at doing the same thing at Poor Valley Creek. Good ideas that couldn't be done.


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